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Post by lilmermaid on Aug 16, 2012 12:20:54 GMT -6
I am super suspicious of the family of the missing 3 yr old who was later found dead. I had a gut feeling as soon as I saw an interview with the mother while they were still searching. Then it was confirmed she was found dead but the mother had no tears and was able to thank all the help on camera! Now they say there are investigating her death. People are saying the little girl was found wandering around the city a few times in the last few weeks. HELLO that does not sound like a child that "knows her boundaries". She's 3 for crying out loud!!!!! www.kare11.com/news/article/987082/391/Investigation-continues-in-death-of-3-year-old-Wis-girlWhat are your thoughts?
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Post by bunsy on Aug 16, 2012 12:26:32 GMT -6
DH said he heard about the wandering stuff too and that she was brought home by neighbors. Where did you see/hear that? I can't find it in print anywhere.
From the beginning, it made me nervous that they lived on a peninsula. YOU know that your eyes have to constantly on your kids when there is water nearby.
Very sad and probably very preventable.
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Post by nevaehsmom327 on Aug 16, 2012 12:28:36 GMT -6
We have been talking about this ALL day at work! I totally agree with you. Something is up with the parenting here and I have to think that neglect had a big part to do with this...ESPECIALLY since she was only found 25 YARDS away from the home. Not even 100 feet...are you kidding me?!?!?!?!
The mom had no tears, no nothing. How you could be that..um..non-caring after finding out your daughter has just died is beyond me. I would be a freaking WRECK!
That and the fact that the neighbors had brought her home earlier that day...ugh...it just doesn't make sense to me and I feel so sorry for that poor little girl. God bless her heart.
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Post by nevaehsmom327 on Aug 16, 2012 12:30:05 GMT -6
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Post by laurac on Aug 16, 2012 12:38:34 GMT -6
I'm totally with you, Lil! The mother was just matter of fact about the whole thing. Both DH and I said the same thing. Something's just not right.
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Post by cakemakermom on Aug 16, 2012 13:00:50 GMT -6
As with all news stories, we don't have all the facts. She may still have been in shock at that point, so that may be why she wasn't crying. You don't know how you're going to react until it happens to you.
I won't judge, it's not up to me to be the judge. There could be so many factors. They might work different shifts which is why (from what little I heard) she was sleeping at the time?
I still remember the little one who wandered off to cross the highway to go to McDonald's in Anoka and didn't make it because he didn't know how to cross with the light. Too many jobs being worked to be able to provide for the household.
I don't like to jump to conclusions before having all the facts.
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Post by nevaehsmom327 on Aug 16, 2012 13:11:38 GMT -6
You're right cake...it's not fair to jump to conclusions...but at the same time you really have to wonder. I mean, either way, the fact that the kid was dropped off by the neighbors an hour and half before she disappeared again is just a little weird to me. I guess for me, if my kid was dropped off by my neighbors because they found her a MILE away from home without shoes, I wouldn't let her go back outside again without having a VERY close eye on her.
And yes, she may have been in shock. Everyone reacts differently. But it seemed as though everyone else around was just distraught and the mother didn't have a care in the world. And it seemed that way when they first interviewed her before they found the body. Again, if it were my kid, I would be freaking the heck out. I wouldn't even bother talking with the press except to get the word out that they are missing. I would just want my kid back. And it didn't seem that way for this woman.
So again, not jumping to conclusions...just very suspicious.
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Post by bunsy on Aug 16, 2012 13:22:42 GMT -6
I won't judge the mother on her attitude. I tend to be very strong and stoic in an emergency. Sad though it may be, I hope she simply fell in and drowned and that no one hurt her.
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Post by jlschlangen on Aug 16, 2012 13:39:26 GMT -6
Everyone but the mom had a reaction it seems to me. I too would be a wreck if I lost my child by death. I feel bad she died yes, but IMO I think could have been watcing her better.
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Post by momof3anddog on Aug 17, 2012 7:26:10 GMT -6
I posted this on my facebook just after they found the little girls body --
"Missing 3-year-old girl in Danbury, WI, found dead after two days of searching. Apparently (drowned I'm guessing) found in a canal 25 yards from her house. I'm sure that lots of people are going to be criticizing her parents' supervision or what have you. However, as a former CPS Wker, and mom of 3, two of them almost 3-year-olds twins, I know how you can be just be a little too tired, go to t he bathroom, or answer the phone and one is suddenly lost in the house and your biggest fear is they have gotten outside. Even when you super prepare, sometimes things happen. I lost one of my twins for a few minutes in Mall of America. I had dressed them in bright red Minnesota Wild Jerseys so I could see them in a crowd if one ran, AND I had 3 adults and a teenager all helping supervise at LegoLand. I actually thought about getting those little retractable leashes that people get for their kids and thought, Nah... that's taking your supervision paranoia overboard. But wouldn't you know, one still got away. Worst panic I have ever had in my life. No matter how prepared and how protective you are, things happen sometimes. I think all of us (EVEN if we won't admit it) can think of a time during our parenting of little kids when we had this "panic moment". But there by the Grace of God, it was for us only a few minutes. I cannot begin to imagine the pain this family and community is feeling right now. Hug your tiny munchkins a little tighter tonight. "
That being said. I think we have to be fair and let authorities investigate this. I hope it isn't legal neglect/ lack of parental supervision that resulted in this child's getting to water and drowning. But whatever the case, I think we need to let the sheriff investigation figure it out and not lambast the family in public forum or speculate on her "appearance" right after the fact We don't know at this point. I have seen some pretty terrible situations in CPS -- some that were pure unfortunate accidents that on the surface looked like someone did something. I've seen some people that would never suspect of doing horrible things to their children and they did. They had all the socially acceptable right reactions to police and me, the CPS investigator. I've seen really inappropriate reactions to children dying (stress in the situations). Been there myself in summer of 2010. I was watching all these older, stronger, children in the rooms around my then 9-month old child's hospital room at the time suddenly tank and get whisked away to the PICU if there was time. Figured if all these full-term, normal 1, 2, and 3-year-olds were dying from the summer flu, how was my little guy with premature birth-related lung issues going to survive. I remember going over-the-top mad about not being able to find a packet of Splenda for my cup of coffee in parents break room down the hall. I'm sure I looked like a crazy woman with her priorities messed up, and "anger issues". But that is how I handled it when I saw them wheel out the body of this little girl in room next to my child just minutes after being told that the next few hours were critical to whether my child would also need to be whisked away to the PICU with a trach/breathing tube put in (and that to expect if that needed to happen that he might not survive). I've been waiting with another friend who's child was getting a critical surgery that we were not sure he would survive. They paged us way early for the surgery to be done. We thought they were going to tell her he died. Actually it had gone way better than they predicted, faster, and they were done. Our response when he told us how well it had gone, was to start laughing hysterically. The doctor was looking at us like he wasn't sure about our sanity.
No matter what the situation, the parents are going to live with the fact that their daughter is dead for the rest of their lives. Woulda, shoulda, coulda is always easier after the fact -- for both those around the situation and the parents themselves.
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Post by lilmermaid on Aug 17, 2012 14:23:13 GMT -6
I stand by my suspicious feelings! It was not about judging but more a gut feeling that something about this situation was not right. Now finding out the mother would not call 911 and the fisherman did just makes my feelings validated. Oh and that many people have come forward saying she was found wandering all over the town. These parents will have to live the rest of their lives knowing they were responsible for their child's death!
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Post by irish on Aug 19, 2012 12:04:21 GMT -6
I agree with you, Lil. I thought it was very fishy also. I do understand that some people act differently under intense situations, like Bunsy mentioned she tends to remain stoic when in a difficult situation. When I saw her on the news on Wednesday night (before they found the body) the mom and the sister were chatting it up with the reporters, in a very nonchalant matter, as if they were talking about the weather. It struck me as incredibly odd, and I remember both my SIL and I saying at the exact same time that we would be freaking out, hyperventilating...wouldn't even be able to chat with the reporters(we were watching it together). Hopefully the investigators will find the answers.
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